Gcs v 1.3 warp to points max 80...omg

[lgb3d]

Omg..

I had a hint that I could only make 41 levels being... Whenever you make a new level the number that pops up on the screen is 40 and you can use the number zero as a level... the original instruction manual has many references to the word level none of which indicate a maximum number...

On the other hand warp to points never indicated a maximum number... And the reference in the original manual that was produced for version 1.3 makes the statement "you can put as many warp two points in a level as you like"..





So here I am heavily employing version 1.3. Laying out some pretty masterful levels, and my goal starting was to finish the game solely using version 1.3.

I am at map number 27 some maps have multiple levels or areas on them.. with the way my games laid out it's kind of difficult to identify anyone part of it as a level...

Long story short I just went to place a Warp to point and a red box appears on the screen saying 80 entries maximum.... ugh..

It's not like I was making small little rooms and having a warp to point to each or having 10 warp two points on every map.

Most levels take up 3/4 or even 90% of the world's space, whenever I had a map that was shallow I utilize the rest of the world space with an area that could only be accessed via Warp to point.. so yes some levels might have 3 warp to points...

This entire time I've been coming at it thinking buy level 40 it has to be complete, but on the other hand believing that I had unlimited number of warp two points based upon the words printed in the instruction manual.

Anyone reading thank you for reading oh, I've been working on this project since 2009 covid-19 got me amped up and a sense of GCS fever... And now here I am a decade later wanting to drop a match.

Like I really wanted a finished product, not something with a dead end, my youth with the GCS I built so many short games but never finished any of them and here I am like this is my opportunity to put that GCS feather in my cap and only 80 Warp to points how can they do this to me?

So I can either...

go back through my game and cut out little Snippets that are ill relevant to gain myself four five warp two points and try to put a blunt end to the game either that or arrive at a point where it says to be continued...

Or...

Try importing a copy of my project directory into version 3.1... in the past I've tried this and more or less the basic level did transfer but I had issues with the extra features editor transferring correctly it's not like the map was simply flipped but it was way off calibration...

What I do remember from version 3 plus was that it gave much more if not unlimited memory to level size, as well gave sectoring options so large levels would still roll smooth... I want to see if it gives me an unlimited number of warp to point so I could finish what I started...

Another Plus is that as I recall version 2.1 allowed read out text and Universal registers to display graphics or if I remember right Avi videos during gameplay using Universal registers to trigger them, with a feature like that I could make a final game sequence other than you have died with Death code 1... so if that option is available in version 2.1 I would only assume 3.1 still has those features.

Pretty sure I'm just reaching out for moral support although I know the answer I pushed version 1.3 to the Limit more than one way now and have found some of the thresholds.

but as well in adulthood have really pushed level design to a whole new level and I am pretty surprised what the engine is capable of as well identifying the quarks that happened when taking gcs level design that far.

In reality the levels I was creating in 2009 although they are relevant functional and entertaining... Do not compare to the intricacy of My Level design through the year 2020, although some of them were close they just don't compare..

So I've got two options go back through my game weed out unnecessary warp to points although their functional to the game and story as well as gives a different level of fun to the game , so I can bring it to an abrupt end,... Or try employing the upgraded final rendition of the engine to see if it allows for more warp two points so I can finish what I have begun without deleting prior features of existing levels..

If anyone knows of a text document I can tweak a little to gain more warp to points let me know. I've toyed some with version 3.1 and I did not enjoy the interface the way I did the original Dos editor that I know like the back of my hand..

but if I'm right there's a limited amount of space similar to the way pstr is set up with only so many lines available and apparently 80 is that number when referring to warp to points.

If 80 is truly the max regardless of what version I'm using, I have one option and that is to consolidate and finish the graphics and storyline and call it done. In the best-case scenario I could get it to a place we're all doors lead to a final end where painted on the wall is "to be continued" , wouldn't that be a spectacular end. I've already been slipping in enough Easter eggs.. got the old CIA guy popping in at various points offering advice... those Nostalgic character's and a game that ends with printed text on a wall... Might truly be the best-case scenario, with no GCS menu available for version 1.3.

[lgb3d]

Sorry to be prolific writing..

So this evening took a little time, an old copy of GCS Windows editor big AKA 3.08 on my computer, went to open it and it when it trys to run text box saying the setup was bad reinstall... So from the original compressed file I reinstall it and it works there test levels are really inspiring ;p

So I transfer my project directory and Associated files object Library and floor ceiling Library weapons and guard files, and I did a few tests...

Most important test, I just started dropping warp to points and there is no dialog box saying warning maximum warp two points . I got to 82 "wtp" and no prob so assuming I have room to play here.. yet to test this Theory and make final but apparently with version 3.0 8 you can put more then could be placed with version 1.3..

Find me reading the manual for version 1.3 and never gave a limit , only the phrase in the instruction manual that you could place as many warp two points on a level as you want , the instruction manual for 308 says the exact same thing and never specifies a limit... Haha funny but so far my test seems good... After I get it rolling and build a couple more levels I will have to make final to verify and test this Theory with version 308..

Another good thing on version 308 when you go to the warp to point list they are all there but their definitions are missing I'm wondering if I can still locate the warp to point definitions in a text document regardless there's enough information to figure it out think yourself 80 warp to points it can be a little confusing but they are in the order they were originally placed.. and viable in the editor at the desired locations.

[Saturdaynight]

Nothing is too prolific when it comes to documenting the Pie GCS. That's what this is here for.

[lgb3d]

Thank you for the moral support... I wound up choosing to stick with version 1.3. It's the right thing to do. Just because I found "a limit" does not mean I need to upgrade... That's the point of this experiment is to show how far this rendition of the engine can go. So yeah I found a limit, now I know to demonstrate this engine I have to work within that set limit.

So I wound up cutting out a few warp points, and erasing a few levels. This will give me room when I do reach the Final Phase to build that final environment and enough warp two points to direct the player there.

But it is really good I found this limit, it forces me to put my focus on aspects of gameplay that I have been putting off.

It's hard to wrap words around it... But theoretically things could be pretty simplistic, step one step two step three you have a finished game... but with the amount of variables possible and any creative urge... you wind up a guy with multiple fires burning trying to juggle them, and the feeling that it's almost impossible to pull it all together.

If you set the stage you know point a you know point B, it should be simple. If you had the whole game planned out and I know exactly how you're going to use the engine and its features oh, yeah it could be pretty simple...

I think the right terminology is variable there are so many variables... Unless you're using all the stock graphics and sound effects, not doing anything too special just simply being creative with the architecture.

So another reason I chose to stick with version 1.3, I know version 3 to have a ton more variables,.. if I put that much on my plate lord only knows when I would arrive at point B.

[Saturdaynight]

Yes, it's hard to get warp to point to work sometimes. I had to remove and rebuild my warp to points at one time because one of them somehow got corrupted and broke the game. I finally figured it out and I think I documented it here.

One of my end goals was to complete Mod-G and then created a windows version games using version 3.0. But time is so limited that that goal is so far down the road.